Just bought MOMdeck and if I could have demo'd it I would have decided not to buy. So why can't you demo packages?

And let me just add that if I'm totally missing things that are all doable my apologies.

Hi Chris,

Apps can be made with in-app purchases, where developers can make trial periods (for example Bounce Factory does this), or they can be made with up-front payment which is simpler and displays the sticker price for end users (like known from app stores). The MOMDeck app uses the 2nd option here, which doesn't have an option for demo periods.

In terms of getting your app to connect, hopefully Andrew can help with that. The app should work just fine with iPads.
The limitations on what's possible to have on a single page comes down to what's available in the protocol that the app uses. The Avid Control app uses EUCON, which is not available to us for this kind of control.

Hi @Chris_Testa ,

Sorry the implementation of the app doesn’t seem to fit into your way of working.
First of all, if it isn’t connecting then that should be something that is easily fixed. If,you have made a Mom profile in Dadman that only has one active layer there is a bug that keeps it from finishing establishing communication. I’m working on it but in the meantime just make sure your profile has at least two active layers, even if you don’t assign any of the buttons in the second.
Once you have the profile set up, if you see and enable the SoundFlow Mom in the device list of Dadman, enabled the Monitor for your Dadman device, and you have made a MOM profile and attached it to the SoundFlow Mom then connection should happen automatically. If it doesn’t then we can sort it out with a quick zoom. The app does work on iPhone, iPad or any Android device. You just load the SoundFlow app and pick the deck you want from there. There are quite a few people using it this way. If any of the Dadman stuff is unclear in the walkthrough video please let me know and I’ll fix it. It’s quite a lot of info if you’ve never done it before, so I could easily have glossed over things.

As far as the number of buttons available at one time, the app uses the MOM protocol to talk to Dadman, which means the limitations are nothing that can be programmed around using the current method of communication. You get a total of four layers, so, including the external, you get 11 buttons per layer that can be used at any one time (44 in all). And as far as putting functionality anywhere you want, you can, just assign them the way you want in the Mom profile. Believe me, when there is another way of communicating with Dadman that gives more functionality I’ll be all over it!

Avid control does give you a different way of controlling the Dadman monitor section, so its advantage is having more sources available at one time. There are quite a few things that this app does that Avid Control doesn’t. First is to allow you to place any of the buttons on any deck you want, including your own custom decks alongside any other commands you have built in SoundFlow. These decks, and the pre-built ones can be loaded on a hardware Stream Deck which gives you tactile control. You can assign keystrokes to any button so that you can use keyboard shortcuts (or any other type of trigger) to switch sources, enable fold downs etc, without having to look at a screen to find a button. You have volume presets and the ability to nudge the volume in any increment you want, either from the app or using triggers. You can name and color buttons (a small one but very useful). There is a momentary button that can be used for triggering any function. You can use a midi knob to control volume if you have one in your setup. There are more but those are all the big ones.

If none of that functionality enhances your workflow and you’re happy with the Avid Control implementation we’ll figure something out. Keep in mind that this can run alongside Avid Control, so you could use Avid Control to access your sources that aren’t used as much, put the commonly used ones on layer 1 of MOMDeck with the rest on other layers.

Anyway, hope this helps and if you’re having any more trouble getting it up and running to be able to really check it out, let me know here and we’ll set up a zoom.

I'm getting the error when I'm using your pre made deck. I was using that just to check it out. Again, I want to say this is certainly something that a lot of people have been looking forward to but I just wish there was more of a discussion of the limitations of the package before having to buy. I understand that there is no way to cover everything but honestly if there is already a known bug that should be disclosed even if there is an easy fix. There should be an explanation of the initial setup and if there are issues like I am having how to fix them. Since it's somewhat trying to replace the monitor section on the Avid Control I would have a pro's and con's of why this package might be better than Avid control for some and not for others. I just think if you're going to have a "buy without trying" policy then you have to go deeper on explaining things than you thought you should. Probably a beta period or at the least have a demo period. I understand that these all take time and all that but in the market you're asking for $70 for an app that does a couple more things than a free app. Regardless of the amount of time you put into it that's a big ask so at the very minimum it should work right away. Also, understanding a post work flow v a music work flow would help to make these packages more universal and if they're not being designed that way then it should be noted that this package is more focused to a music mixing workflow and not that of post. Soundflow is a brilliant app and a lifesaver when it comes to speeding up workflows. I appreciate Christian and the entire community who are alway super helpful figuring things out. I just think if you're going to be charging top tier prices for packages they should be pretty flawless from the get go and if there seems like there might be issues than offer it as a demo.