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Create Named Group and VCA's behavior

By Masayoshi Sugai @Masayoshi_Sugai
    2021-10-16 09:06:27.273Z

    Hi, Andrew!

    I always use Create Named Group and VCA! Thanks for the great script!

    I have noticed one thing.
    When I run "Create Named Group and VCA", the group and VCA track are created, but the created group is not assigned to the VCA track.

    I used to think this was normal behavior and assigning groups to VCA tracks was manual.
    However, when observing the behavior of the script, it seems that the VCA pop-up opens momentarily in the Create Group Window, but closes before the group name is selected.

    It would be very comfortable if this problem were solved, but is it possible?

    Solved in post #3, click to view
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    1. In reply toMasayoshi_Sugai:
      Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
        2021-10-16 20:34:26.627Z

        Fixed in 1.0.9! Thanks for pointing it out, it was a silly error

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        1. MMasayoshi Sugai @Masayoshi_Sugai
            2021-10-17 03:30:24.752Z

            Hi, Andrew.

            Thank you for your quick response and great work!
            It works perfectly!!!

            1. In reply toAndrew_Scheps:
              SSteve Bissinger @sbiss2022-02-03 19:06:07.060Z2022-02-03 19:28:47.416Z

              I just discovered this. So great! One more tweak I would request...if I select a group of tracks and run this script it places the VCA track below the selected tracks. I would typically want it above. Don't know if others prefer below, but perhaps a property to define whether above or below would please everybody?

              And not to get greedy, but it would be amazing to have the option of being able to define the VCA track color in the preset :)

              1. I am also getting this error...

                1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                    2022-02-03 19:31:07.561Z

                    Is it creating the VCA? It's working here, but if for some reason the VCA doesn't get created that's the error you would probably get

                  • In reply tosbiss:
                    Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                      2022-02-03 19:32:14.132Z

                      The problem is that it's automatically created below the tracks. To move it would be a whole other script like Chris Shaw's move tracks. Much more complicated than it seems...

                      1. Understood about track placement. It is sometimes creating the vca/finishing the script, but sometimes gets hung at the "Create Group" window. So it does not get far enough to create the VCA.

                        1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                            2022-02-03 21:06:51.387Z

                            It should actually create the VCA before creating the group so it can assign it, so if the VCA isn't being created that would be the issue. If you can find a reproducible case a screen recording would be great. Thanks!

                            1. My mistake. It did create the VCA, then got hung at the Create Groups window. That said, it hasn't thrown an error again so perhaps something else was interfering. I will keep an eye on it. Still a super helpful script!

                              1. One last thought...and forgive me if this is simplistic and I'm overlooking something that would break this. Currently it does this:

                                1. Creates the VCA.
                                2. Reselects the tracks & groups them.
                                3. Assigns the group to the VCA.

                                What if it did this:

                                1. Group the already selected tracks.
                                2. Press "P" to move the tracks selection up one track (one above the group that was made)
                                3. Create the VCA & assign the group.

                                That should create the VCA just above the grouped tracks. Would that work?

                                1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                                    2022-02-03 23:25:36.843Z

                                    That would work in most cases, but I can see issues if you have the topmost track in the session selected, or some possible issues with things ending up inside folders they shouldn't. Unfortunately I think I'm going to make you suffer with the VCAs below...

                                    1. You are right and sorry to be floating to not very thought through ideas. No worries. Still a huge help and I've made a macro that runs your script and colors the track so I'm 90% of the way there :)

                                      1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                                          2022-02-03 23:33:45.527Z

                                          Believe me, I'd add it if it wouldn't complicate things so much!

                                  • In reply toAndrew_Scheps:
                                    Dana Nielsen @Dana_Nielsen
                                      2022-03-04 22:20:57.734Z

                                      Andrew!! You rockstar. I was just searching to see if anyone else is bumping into this, as @sbiss mentioned, I get hung on the Create Groups window as well and curious how to solve. Here's the log I'm getting pretty consistently. I'm prob doing something dumb, but lemme know if u or anyone else here has a quick fix, thanks!!

                                      04.03.2022 14:10:47.44 [Backend]: Logging unknown error in action (02) RunCommandAction: Create Named Group and VCA: Line 39
                                      !! Command Error: Create VCA [user:ckwynzmvc00034k10k1aadldg:cl074m6n90000s7106kgioe0b]:
                                      Error running command user:ckwiweeqy0003y210z9zykz7x:ckgqfubda00016m10r3bu8347 (Create VCA: Line 1)
                                      Could not click popup menu item (Create Named Group and VCA: Line 39)
                                      Could not find menu item with name: vocals

                                      1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                                          2022-03-04 22:37:06.123Z

                                          Hey @Dana_Nielsen !

                                          The error is saying that it can't find a vca named vocals in the popup menu, so...can you post a screenshot of the preset you are running when it fails?

                                          1. Dana Nielsen @Dana_Nielsen
                                              2022-03-04 23:28:09.881Z2022-03-04 23:48:54.295Z

                                              Hmm.. weird, the VCA track is being created just fine and shows up in the VCA popup menu within the Create Groups dialog, but it seems to get stuck on pasting the group name and selecting the VCA from the popup menu. Here's a lil screen record of what I'm doing (and again, apologies if I'm just doing something newb/boneheaded!). Also- seems like u have to click on the hyperlink to see movie, as the embedded viewer doesn't seem to play. Thank u thank u!

                                              1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                                                  2022-03-05 00:56:37.362Z

                                                  It would put the group name in after selecting the vca, so it’s all about it not properly selecting the vca in that menu. I’ll have a look tomorrow…

                                                  1. Dana Nielsen @Dana_Nielsen
                                                      2022-03-05 01:11:02.818Z

                                                      U rule, man! For real. 🙏🏻

                                                      1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                                                          2022-03-05 11:48:15.596Z

                                                          I think the problems is you've made a macro that runs an existing preset instead of just making your own preset. Select the "Create Named Group and VCA" script and then choose New Preset from the New menu at the top of the Editor. Let me know how that goes.

                                                          1. Dana Nielsen @Dana_Nielsen
                                                              2022-03-05 21:04:01.731Z

                                                              Ohhhh ... see? #newb. Thanks so much man, I'll try that out!

                                                              1. In reply toAndrew_Scheps:
                                                                Dana Nielsen @Dana_Nielsen
                                                                  2022-03-06 06:41:23.751Z

                                                                  GENIUS! That worked great, thanks, Andrew!

                                                                  The lesson of the day for me is: "don't macro a preset." 😂

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                                              In reply toMasayoshi_Sugai:
                                              Keith Elliott @Keith_Elliott
                                                2022-10-04 00:43:41.778Z

                                                I am getting the same/similar error that most have explained or gotten to work...

                                                03.10.2022 20:39:41.33 <info> [Backend]: !! Command Error: vKeys - Create Group [user:ckyyuip2t00045a10tgjwm774:ckf4cv3ei000oy410dgixx1tu#cl8s3nc5r000f7r1015nvlevq]:
                                                Could not click popup menu item (Create and Add To Groups: Line 50)
                                                    Could not find menu item with name: vKEYS 
                                                
                                                << Command: vKeys - Create Group [user:ckyyuip2t00045a10tgjwm774:ckf4cv3ei000oy410dgixx1tu#cl8s3nc5r000f7r1015nvlevq]
                                                

                                                It's clearly properly creating the VCA [see screenshot] but for some reason it's unable to find that VCA even though it's in the menu.

                                                This is my own created Preset.

                                                Running v1.1

                                                1. Andrew Scheps @Andrew_Scheps
                                                    2022-10-04 09:45:38.081Z

                                                    Are you trying to run the preset inside a macro? I believe there are issues with that.

                                                    1. KKeith Elliott @Keith_Elliott
                                                        2022-10-04 17:00:10.227Z

                                                        No. I am simply triggering the preset on it's own from a Streamdeck button.

                                                        1. In reply toAndrew_Scheps:
                                                          KKeith Elliott @Keith_Elliott
                                                            2022-10-06 00:28:11.915Z

                                                            I have a hunch about the problem.
                                                            Because I am specifying no VCA Suffix, it's still adding a space and looking for a VCA name with a blank space on the end. Which it isn't finding because the track creation chopped off the ending space? Line 106 of the script?

                                                            Basically something come down to a lost space in a string variable somewhere...?