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when I first open soundflow all the commands and packages are gone. Like I stated in my post on the forum.

By Pierre van Caloen @Pierre_van_Caloen
    2023-02-26 14:44:48.111Z

    when I first open soundflow all the commands and packages are gone. Like I stated in my post on the forum.

    System Information

    SoundFlow 5.3.0

    OS: darwin 20.6.0

    ProductName: macOS
    ProductVersion: 11.6
    BuildVersion: 20G165

    Steps to Reproduce

    1. open soundflow
    2. all is gone
    3. select empty profile
    4. All packages, commands and profiles reappear

    Expected Result

    Actual Result

    Workaround

    Other Notes

    I deleted some profiles at the start of my soundflow usage. So maybe it's related? Using 2 profiles protools and foley the default is not used


    Links

    User UID: QcDHvsmnPGY0bQTEirW05dHPdM52

    Feedback Key: sffeedback:QcDHvsmnPGY0bQTEirW05dHPdM52:-NPDAjPfDME-YzS2N6D5

    Feedback ZIP

    • 8 replies
    1. Hi Pierre,

      I'm sorry to hear you're experiencing this issue. Are you saying that this happens every time you start SoundFlow, or just the first time you log into a new computer?

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        Pierre van Caloen @Pierre_van_Caloen
          2023-02-26 19:52:06.511Z

          Hey Christian,

          Still working day and night...? I know the feeling ;)
          Anyway thanks for your reply,
          Yes I guess every computer restart. Tried deleting everything incl. Data from soundflow and reïnstalling from scratch. So I guess it has to do something with the login or the profiles.

          Let me know if and where I can grab helpfull data.
          Probably should copy the log.

          Thx,
          Pierre

          1. Hi Pierre,

            Thanks for the added info. We might need to take a specific look at your account. Stay tuned.

            Does it make a difference if you wait longer after the machine has restarted to open up the SoundFlow editor app? For example try waiting an excessive amount of time, say 5-10 minutes after the SF icon has turned grey, before you open the editor.

            1. No. It doesn't matter. Have to dubble check but I guess all works in the last selected profile. It's only when I open the soundflow window that nothing is there.

              1. Hm, yea that's definitely weird. I've seen this error only occasionally when opening up the SF editor "too soon" before my account was loaded, which is why I suggested checking for that.

                1. Ok so quiting and reopening is no problem,
                  but indeed when I reopen the app the next day all works in the last used profile.
                  When I open the app I have nothing.

                  Now I used a few shortcuts to check and when I go back to SF all is there...
                  Log below:

                  27.02.2023 13:06:59.56 [Backend]: Sending event /app/open with subject: ToGui...
                  Sending event /system/open-configuration with subject: ToAgent...

                  27.02.2023 13:07:00.80 [Backend]: Setting up handling of stream for events/togui
                  Sending event /session/update with subject: ToGui...
                  Sending event /auth/online with subject: ToGui...

                  27.02.2023 13:07:00.84 [Backend]: Setting up handling of stream for userInfo

                  27.02.2023 13:07:00.85 [Backend]: Setting up handling of stream for features

                  27.02.2023 13:07:00.93 [Backend]: Setting up handling of stream for user zip packages
                  Setting up handling of stream for userSettings
                  DB-MASTER-SHARD: Path '/apps/sfsx-1/publishedPackagesIndex' from master database

                  27.02.2023 13:07:00.99 [Backend]: [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_3] Asking Firebase to START listening at path 'apps/sfsx-1/publishedPackagesIndex' with hash 'KripXPq6FQzJzS9LgPuUQGkDMc4=' for reason 'connect'

                  27.02.2023 13:07:00.99 [Backend]: Received table get once on path apps/sfsx-1/store/tags
                  DB-MASTER-SHARD: Path '/apps/sfsx-1/store/tags' from master database

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.05 [Backend]: [CanStartTrial] {
                  "success": true,
                  "result": {
                  "canStartTrial": false
                  }
                  }

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.12 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 2 bytes. Total received: 11628

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.25 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 445479 bytes. Total received: 457107

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.30 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 457151
                  [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_3] Received OK
                  [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 5640 bytes. Total received: 462791

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.30 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 462835

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.41 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 462879

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.41 [Backend]: DB-MASTER-SHARD: Path '/apps/sfsx-1/publishedPackagesDomainIndex/be_musicmasters' from master database

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.41 [Backend]: [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_4] Asking Firebase to START listening at path 'apps/sfsx-1/publishedPackagesDomainIndex/be_musicmasters' with hash 'CgzbonK9jYH/uJCYIRFlXq8EISM=' for reason 'connect'

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.41 [Backend]: Received table get once on path apps/sfsx-1/help/entries
                  DB-MASTER-SHARD: Path '/apps/sfsx-1/help/entries' from master database

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.53 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 462923
                  [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_4] Received OK

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.53 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 5556 bytes. Total received: 468479

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.53 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 468523

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.66 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 468567

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.66 [Backend]: [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_5] Asking Firebase to START listening at path 'apps/sfsx-1/userFlows/QcDHvsmnPGY0bQTEirW05dHPdM52' with hash 'RFYMwJSGDqj3BZ1kcnu0BYlZuSc=' for reason 'connect'

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.66 [Backend]: DB-MASTER-SHARD: Path '/apps/sfsx-1/flows/startupCode' from master database
                  [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_6] Asking Firebase to START listening at path 'apps/sfsx-1/flows/startupCode' with hash 'M+zA81pkfTEBvJMiQGUCVpiL4IQ=' for reason 'connect'
                  Received table get once on path apps/sfsx-1/store/tags
                  DB-MASTER-SHARD: Path '/apps/sfsx-1/store/tags' from master database

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.78 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 468611
                  [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_5] Received OK
                  [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 468655

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.78 [Backend]: [WebsocketDatabaseSubscription]: [L_6] Received OK
                  [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 5640 bytes. Total received: 474295

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.78 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 474339

                  27.02.2023 13:07:01.89 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 44 bytes. Total received: 474383

                  27.02.2023 13:07:46.78 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending keep-alive

                  27.02.2023 13:08:31.78 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending keep-alive

                  27.02.2023 13:09:16.79 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending keep-alive

                  27.02.2023 13:10:01.79 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending keep-alive

                  27.02.2023 13:10:46.79 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending keep-alive

                  27.02.2023 13:10:49.62 [Backend]: #App: Activate "com.avid.ProTools" -> DX Toolkit - With RX 9 [ckw6hqk1t0000zn104cxhlhf1]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:49.63 [Backend]: #App: Activate "com.avid.ProTools" -> 1 - Protools [ckynszf1a00017o10igrfaupp]
                  [AxDeckInstance] InstanceShow: user:ckuqnvxyi0002f710zzxvxt9j:ckr1j0ji8000tw510xm85ijb3:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.bd061e99-b798-4e9c-8360-c15198834cff (DX Toolkit - With RX 9) Device: ''
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] Device '91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99' -> ShowDeckInstance: user:ckuqnvxyi0002f710zzxvxt9j:ckr1j0ji8000tw510xm85ijb3:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.bd061e99-b798-4e9c-8360-c15198834cff
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] HideDeckInstance
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] DrawInstance. instance 'user:ckuqnvxyi0002f710zzxvxt9j:ckr1j0ji8000tw510xm85ijb3:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.bd061e99-b798-4e9c-8360-c15198834cff'

                  27.02.2023 13:10:49.63 [Backend]: [AxDeckInstance] InstanceShow: user:ckxdf2p01000cju10bey3yw6k:ckxdiaczf00008o10g5emwt16:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.13bf3a12-34ac-4a6d-bd3f-eff3b9ab2865 (1 - Protools) Device: ''
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] Device '91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99' -> ShowDeckInstance: user:ckxdf2p01000cju10bey3yw6k:ckxdiaczf00008o10g5emwt16:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.13bf3a12-34ac-4a6d-bd3f-eff3b9ab2865
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] HideDeckInstance

                  27.02.2023 13:10:49.63 [Backend]: [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] DrawInstance. instance 'user:ckxdf2p01000cju10bey3yw6k:ckxdiaczf00008o10g5emwt16:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.13bf3a12-34ac-4a6d-bd3f-eff3b9ab2865'

                  27.02.2023 13:10:49.63 [Backend]: Unexpected MIDI byte: 242

                  27.02.2023 13:10:51.23 [Backend]: #Key: numpad 1 (83) -> Prev Marker [cku2lc8qt00020u10daoe1sg6]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:51.23 [Backend]: >> Command: Prev Marker [user:cku2lbajo00000u10q414s4bg:cku2lc5bi00010u101f768loa]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:51.24 [Backend]: Marker count: 390

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.05 [Backend]: Checking for running apps with bundle 'com.avid.ProTools'

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.05 [Backend]: NSArray.ArrayFromHandle count = 1

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.13 [Backend]: Mouse current pos is: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)
                  Clicking with mouse here: (12, 62)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.14 [Backend]: Moving mouse back to: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.14 [Backend]: Position is now: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.20 [Backend]: Typing some keys...

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.34 [Backend]: << Command: Prev Marker [user:cku2lbajo00000u10q414s4bg:cku2lc5bi00010u101f768loa]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:52.34 [Backend]: Unexpected MIDI byte: 242

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.25 [Backend]: #Key: numpad 1 (83) -> Prev Marker [cku2lc8qt00020u10daoe1sg6]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.25 [Backend]: >> Command: Prev Marker [user:cku2lbajo00000u10q414s4bg:cku2lc5bi00010u101f768loa]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.25 [Backend]: Checking for running apps with bundle 'com.avid.ProTools'
                  NSArray.ArrayFromHandle count = 1

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.34 [Backend]: Mouse current pos is: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)
                  Clicking with mouse here: (12, 62)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.35 [Backend]: Moving mouse back to: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.35 [Backend]: Position is now: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.38 [Backend]: Typing some keys...

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.52 [Backend]: Unexpected MIDI byte: 242

                  27.02.2023 13:10:54.52 [Backend]: << Command: Prev Marker [user:cku2lbajo00000u10q414s4bg:cku2lc5bi00010u101f768loa]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.05 [Backend]: #Key: numpad 2 (84) -> Next Marker [cku2le44w00040u10prew8qkt]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.05 [Backend]: >> Command: Next Marker [user:cku2lbajo00000u10q414s4bg:cku2lcy2f00030u10bxde81ud]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.06 [Backend]: Checking for running apps with bundle 'com.avid.ProTools'

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.06 [Backend]: NSArray.ArrayFromHandle count = 1

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.14 [Backend]: Mouse current pos is: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)
                  Clicking with mouse here: (12, 62)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.15 [Backend]: Moving mouse back to: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.16 [Backend]: Position is now: (1123,5556640625, 46,137054443359375)

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.19 [Backend]: Typing some keys...

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.33 [Backend]: << Command: Next Marker [user:cku2lbajo00000u10q414s4bg:cku2lcy2f00030u10bxde81ud]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:55.34 [Backend]: Unexpected MIDI byte: 242

                  27.02.2023 13:10:57.64 [Backend]: #App: Activate "com.avid.ProTools" -> DX Toolkit - With RX 9 [ckw6hqk1t0000zn104cxhlhf1]

                  27.02.2023 13:10:57.64 [Backend]: #App: Activate "com.avid.ProTools" -> 1 - Protools [ckynszf1a00017o10igrfaupp]
                  [AxDeckInstance] InstanceShow: user:ckuqnvxyi0002f710zzxvxt9j:ckr1j0ji8000tw510xm85ijb3:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.9a2ced61-b565-4cd3-8850-1aeb2bc9c31f (DX Toolkit - With RX 9) Device: ''
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] Device '91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99' -> ShowDeckInstance: user:ckuqnvxyi0002f710zzxvxt9j:ckr1j0ji8000tw510xm85ijb3:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.9a2ced61-b565-4cd3-8850-1aeb2bc9c31f
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] HideDeckInstance

                  27.02.2023 13:10:57.64 [Backend]: [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] DrawInstance. instance 'user:ckuqnvxyi0002f710zzxvxt9j:ckr1j0ji8000tw510xm85ijb3:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.9a2ced61-b565-4cd3-8850-1aeb2bc9c31f'

                  27.02.2023 13:10:57.64 [Backend]: [AxDeckInstance] InstanceShow: user:ckxdf2p01000cju10bey3yw6k:ckxdiaczf00008o10g5emwt16:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.4f00d007-df7b-49d6-96dd-7d803264f16e (1 - Protools) Device: ''
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] Device '91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99' -> ShowDeckInstance: user:ckxdf2p01000cju10bey3yw6k:ckxdiaczf00008o10g5emwt16:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.4f00d007-df7b-49d6-96dd-7d803264f16e
                  [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] HideDeckInstance

                  27.02.2023 13:10:57.64 [Backend]: [AxStreamDeckDevice id#4] DrawInstance. instance 'user:ckxdf2p01000cju10bey3yw6k:ckxdiaczf00008o10g5emwt16:streamDeckApi.91662C527F5E3AAFFAE85D3EFFF60C99.4f00d007-df7b-49d6-96dd-7d803264f16e'

                  27.02.2023 13:10:57.65 [Backend]: Unexpected MIDI byte: 242

                  27.02.2023 13:11:31.81 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending keep-alive

                  27.02.2023 13:11:35.61 [AppAutoUpdater]: Checking if there are any changes to the container needed
                  27.02.2023 13:11:35.61 [AppAutoUpdater]: Checking for updates...
                  27.02.2023 13:11:35.61 [AppAutoUpdater]: checking url https://core.api.soundflow.org/v1/app/updates/get with options: {
                  "appId": "sfsx-1",
                  "appFullVersion": "5.3.0",
                  "channel": "stable",
                  "userToken": ""
                  }
                  27.02.2023 13:11:35.84 [AppAutoUpdater]: No updates available. Checking again in 4 hours
                  27.02.2023 13:12:16.82 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending keep-alive

                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.76 [AppState.AuthService.SigninProvider]: _handleRefresh
                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.76 [AppState.AuthService.SigninProvider]: Refreshing Firebase token for shard 'soundflow-4533b.firebaseio.com'
                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.95 [AppState.AuthService.SigninProvider]: Done refreshing Firebase token for shard 'soundflow-4533b.firebaseio.com'
                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.95 [AppState.AuthService.SigninProvider]: Refresh timer set, 38 mins, 57 secs from now
                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.95 [AppState.AuthService.FirebaseAuth]: User changed: {
                  "user": "non-null"
                  }
                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.95 [FirebaseConnection]: Received AuthStateChanged with shardHost='soundflow-4533b.firebaseio.com
                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.95 [Application]: _setBackendAuth with token
                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.96 [Backend]: Sending event /auth/online with subject: ToGui...

                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.96 [Backend]: [[SF:LHE1ZCUvxpkdRgGhtPfkO+syQbv9OVwAup/lUAW9UxgKVdMxHlvtxyq/hU3H7gLAKgqaPWqf7n+VWqKnrphWVpFr0SPC2L1XrlsSWJNfTBadeMA43cUnylWKqcHAA/Yb:]]

                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.96 [Backend]: [[SF:LHE1ZCUvxpkdRgGhtPfkO+syQbv9OVwAup/lUAW9UxjCf7F4sPJse7mtpmO/41kscVbrBtTvhQhovCA+zC6odES83ghVCVL29Pg+ZIvu1unVrZKQVq3aTel02Zer9Cqt+ac2Sy7ekSRSMPIT+hsI2MzG7XGTXa6eckrN3GgfPjn04Is+HCciXO/4m54xM7oz+9rc4NkSF+Jd6to6dO3f72SDZHNeoLWcIfIAt0H2J54W5BkvT8IQIsstS3V3u48l/Nzv8xqrVOvciC7rONFaQw==:]]
                  [ServerController] Received new user: 'QcDHvsmnPGY0bQTEirW05dHPdM52' with token 'none'
                  [DatabaseController]: Performing token refresh on master database...
                  [ConfigurationController] LoadConfigurationAsync user 'QcDHvsmnPGY0bQTEirW05dHPdM52' reason 'AuthStateChanged' hasCloudPro: True: Auth

                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.96 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Sending token refresh request

                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.96 [Backend]: Effective Active User Profile: cksxkjcd900027j10l6t9nq0q

                  27.02.2023 13:12:44.96 [Backend]: [OfficialPackageManager] User has already run migrations
                  [OfficialPackageManager] Not auto-updating official package 'Pro Tools' since the newest version is '1.0.18' and you have installed '1.0.18'
                  [OfficialPackageManager] Not auto-updating official package 'Cubase & Nuendo' since the newest version is '1.0.0' and you have installed '1.0.0'
                  [OfficialPackageManager] Not auto-updating official package 'Basics' since the newest version is '1.0.0' and you have installed '1.0.0'
                  [OfficialPackageManager] User has loaded settings - check to see if we need to force any official package installations
                  [OfficialPackageManager] Not auto-forcing (installing) official package 'Basics' since it was already installed

                  27.02.2023 13:12:45.10 [Backend]: [SF_FIREBASE_WS]: Received 1137 bytes. Total received: 475520

                  27.02.2023 13:12:45.28 [Backend]: [ConfigurationController] Sending new ZIP packages to sfgui

                  1. Thanks, Pierre, but I would need the full log file to further investigate this. I'd get that if you do the following:

                    • Restart computer.
                    • Wait 5 minutes until after SF and everything else has loaded.
                    • Launch the SF editor (SF icon -> Open SoundFlow)
                    • Notice if the issue is there
                    • File a new bug (that way I will get your updated log files)

                    From the log files I received from your first report, it does look like you're opening the editor before everything has loaded.

                    1. Ok I'll try to do that tomorrow when I boot up...